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Jun 13, 2007 6:27:55 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jun 13, 2007 6:27:55 GMT -6
there is a cascade effect who could understand what the loss of sleep can do to a person... no it's not insomnia but do you ever just get so tired you cann't sleep? sometimes the body for whatever multitude of reasons won't let you sleep... until finally you hit the bed tired and fatigued and go out like a light problem solved, that is if only for a brief moment in time then you are awakened not once but three times and now cann't sleep for 3 or 4 more hours and then only a fitful restless sleep not the deep release that held so much promise that was so thoughtlessly snatched away from you - another long day on the job and now the invitation is gone there is no more fall into those depths of sleepfu rest... again you feel it all over your body the same body that keeps you awake all night what a vicious circle so the shit hits the fan as anything that can go wrong does in the kitchin and someone dares to ask as the breakfast is burning "What's wrong" the same person who kept you awake two nights before such a simple thing as sleep they couldn't possibly understand the connection how one restless night will affect another
...............the same person who had kept you awake who unknowingly provoked this unfortunate cycle waking you up searching for the phone... and then twice more after that and you forget for what reason and now there is no more sleeping... now someones feelings get hurt and ironic as it may seem it is all your fault - go off like that over burnt oatmeal usually the first couple of hours is the worst then you snape out of it and coast in this holding pattern no one could possibly understand it is the physical exertion of work and exercise that tends to keep you healthy and yet won't let you rest at night with so many achs and pains but the bills must be paid
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Jun 13, 2007 8:28:20 GMT -6
Post by DavidMc on Jun 13, 2007 8:28:20 GMT -6
I can certainly relate to a lot of what you're saying here tl ... if I get deprived of sleep for any reason I can go crazy Fortunately fo me and everyone else, this doesn't happen too often. D.
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Jun 13, 2007 15:25:57 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jun 13, 2007 15:25:57 GMT -6
yes it can tend to give the impression of temporary madness but of course it is a host of factors not eating the right way as well as chronic lack sleep all adds up and you become this crazy person what ever justification you might of had is nullified by all the needless drama oh well fortunately it is not very often it gets this bad generally we can just coast along.... here is something to balance things out
how do we remain at the center of the circle when all around life seems to be so out of control i suppose that is the number one question... who do we allow into our circle or do we even have a choice - some times it may seem the universe has a mind of its own and that actually isn't to far from the truth - it is said the universe is forever out of control how could we hope to change it as we are being changed ourselves the fact that we think we could improve the world is the greatest illusion of all - the world is sacred as it is how could it be improved around the wheel there are eight trigams that complete the circle these eight combine to create in pairs of two 64 hexagrams each of which reflect a specific meaning either in the mundane or on a far greater level reflecting the moments of change and the possibility of understanding beyond the scope of words between the celestial and the mundane or temproarl appearance of contiguous reality waking up is only the beginning then we have to find the words to put this in to meaning which is the purpose of hidden practice working in the dragons pool
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Jun 14, 2007 2:41:12 GMT -6
Post by wistfuldragon on Jun 14, 2007 2:41:12 GMT -6
On this subject I could spin wild but I will not...
Just wanted to say...
Bravo...well done...and glad not to be alone...lol...
wistmish
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Jul 24, 2007 0:48:32 GMT -6
Post by anirbas on Jul 24, 2007 0:48:32 GMT -6
insomniacal moments can lead to poetical brilliance... or the making of an ass of one's self...LOL... astute commentary, Cleveland...
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Jul 24, 2007 7:00:40 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jul 24, 2007 7:00:40 GMT -6
Thank you David, Wistful and Sabrina,
Fortunately i seem to now be sleeping much better... helping to identify the little things like how that generic ibupropen keeps me churning all night long.... but now it seems i am finally regaining my legs beneath me... bicyling the way that i use to as my primary means of transportation... and now it seems we are in the final phases getting this new leg completed - the problem with my insurance has cleared up for the most part - at least they will pay for it... and exercise has placed me in a much better space of mind twice over to Durham in the past 4 days dragging my ass always before leaving, then gaining energy along the way... stopping at the quarry always for a refreshing dip
Accidental Awakenings
what we put in is all we get back feed the contents of your head 'Surprised by Joy" at any moment we could awaken make the connection with who we have always been balanced at the heart of creation
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Jul 24, 2007 15:14:20 GMT -6
Post by Sam on Jul 24, 2007 15:14:20 GMT -6
Sometimes, it is the people we allow into our life cycle that affect us the most. If you are annoyed, and feeling down and negative all the time, look around you. Who do you see? Listen and tell me what do you hear.... There is only so much emotion a person can carry. Misery does indeed love company......and to bend an ear. Sometimes, out of self preservation, one has to turn and walk away. Free your mind of worry. Give your own thoughts and emotions enough time to surface and reveal themselves to you, then, comfort yourself. Kiss your own injuries. Tell yourself that everything is going to be alright and that tomorrrow is another day. Then you can allow yourself to rest. You can only deny yourself for so long! Understand?
Sam
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Jul 25, 2007 6:43:17 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jul 25, 2007 6:43:17 GMT -6
Thank You Sam,
For the the longest time all that i ever heard was the silence of this contemplative life in reflection... many twist and turns along the way yet when the body shuts down there is nothing else to be do or be done but to wait and ride it out We all have our own unique challenges in life that hopefully serve to make us the better person we know ourself to be... yet being cut off from an ordinary existence is not such a bad thing it gives us distance and the determination to survive whatever life might thow at us Commiting the One unforegiveable sin back in 1977 after long years in suffering indeterminate yet chronic health complications i had the experience of becoming enlightened - which isn't so bad in itself a perfectly natural event but not something that can be spoken openly... and so my real life education in the so called "real world" was set into motion you see the secret to hidden spiritual practice is that we have the good sense of self preservation not to tell the whole wide world about it - it ain't nothing special - like being surprised by joy... the life of the conditioned self just drops away and we are left free standing in the present moment or as in my case We subject ourselves to an intensive three day varitible witch hunt inquisition and are virtually crucified - time and time again until almost there is nothing left there is no putting this cat back in the bag once we are crucified and hung out to dry like the hanged man for all to see deep south bible belt southern justice at its finest - awakened could be highly over rated... so it is not so much the experience as the way we handle it that matters most if we should one day find ourselves on this path of the inward way. i could give my litany of abuses endured at the hands of the temporal police - the guys in dark suits who came to interogate my mother and her willingness to recount ever known misadventure of a life or what it means to be so ostracized as to be made the laughing stock of the whole university at the bequest of adminstrative officials because clearly i must have been deluded even though i had learned from my mistake after three days of perpetual interrogation that some things are better left unspoken particularly in vastly unsympathetic environments yet i went on to win a departmental scholarship for outstanding achivement in art... And so the question remains at this late date in the game why these things should even matter? because to speak of the injustices of the past awakens all the intent that once had arrisen to keep us slient mundanity is a sleeping dragon i was not intended to survive the initial battle and as i sat at deaths door and begain to write about it all these many years later the whole thing was awoken for a brief moment in time just long enough for me to put it to rest Once and for All my stolen life in unimaginable hardships was not for nothing gotta run go do that hard manual labor thing..... with balance in spirit
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Jul 25, 2007 7:23:21 GMT -6
Post by Sam on Jul 25, 2007 7:23:21 GMT -6
I wish we knew the answers......But, I do know someday, we will. Everything that has happened to us so far, is leading us forward. You know that as well as I do. Perhaps, on that day of awakening, and the final clarity of mind, we will then look at each other and just say, "Oh". Think?
Have a great day!
Sam
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Jul 25, 2007 8:47:27 GMT -6
Post by anirbas on Jul 25, 2007 8:47:27 GMT -6
slipping by to smile and say...I slept like a log, last night...hope everyone else did too... generic ibuprofen keeps you awake, Cleveland? try taking generic benadryl with it... LOL...don't listen to me...i'm not an apothecary...or would that be an apothecarist? must ask David...we don't have them here, but they do, across the big pond...here's to loads of zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz's for everybody when head to pillow you doth lay to wallow in dreams of hap, hap, happy things...shutting up...Sabrina
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Jul 25, 2007 15:39:02 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jul 25, 2007 15:39:02 GMT -6
Thanks Ladies just in one of those reflective phases creating words that don't exist just because they fit the phrase... 'awoken' i kinda like it... works for me in spirit tl
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Jul 26, 2007 8:44:08 GMT -6
Post by tolteclogic on Jul 26, 2007 8:44:08 GMT -6
stormy search for the self the soul of Rumi secret of enneagrams Spiritual Madness the Way of Chung Tzu magnus machina mind magic the art of dreaming
The fading smile The essential Tao The power of focus The undiscovered self Jewels within the heart Metaphores of consciousness Stolen lightening The enlightened mind Journey of socretes The life you were born to live Mastery The Taoist I Ching The Doors of perception Essential Jung The Wheel of time Fire from within Subtal Universal Law integral way of life A self made by magic(?) A treasury of Gibran Prometheus rising Cosmic trigger Journey to Ixtlan The war against chiche' Teachings of Gurdjiff The essential Colin Wilson Thoreau's Journals Hidden knowledge The book of life Taoist Internal Martial Arts The Perennial Philosophy Knowledge and the Scared Entering the Tao Four Archetypes Be Here Now
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