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Post by darkness0within on Jan 25, 2019 7:58:03 GMT -6
This is generic. But I'm sure will strike chords with some.
it seems to me that fewer people seem inclined to roll up their sleeves and get their hands dirty. it's all very well to sit by a computer in their day to day work, and there will always be a need for this. but without people actually dealing with what's needed on the ground nothing much will be achieved.
Many work places have an ageing workforce. skills that used to be handed down are beginning to be lost. This has happened in the past. There are things that were made that we don't have any idea how they achieved such things.
It is important in my view to hold on to these skills. Admittedly some might seem redundant now. but there might be a time when they will be needed. it would be a crime to have to learn these skills by trial and error time and time again.
If for some reason we lost all modern technology. We would be stumped. (or F***** if you like)
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Post by phantasm on Jan 26, 2019 18:47:20 GMT -6
>>>If for some reason we lost all modern technology. We would be stumped. (or F***** if you like)
Well, sort of. A good example I have in my head is Roman cement. The Romans invented cement and used it to make beautiful architecture etc. The Roman Empire eventually fell. They took a lot of knowledge with them. Among other things, how to make cement. And their recipe has held up quite well over the centuries. The Western world re-discovered how to make the stuff, but somehow ours isn't as good as the stuff the Romans used. However, we did re-discover cement.
If/When the modern West falls, we may take a lot of knowledge with us. Maybe. However, we democratized the pursuit of knowledge. We are probably one of the most educated civilizations the human race has ever produced. Look at how many people go to college, university, even beyond. For better or worse. Even people who flunk out of med school still acquired some knowledge-- more than most people in the general population.
Let's say you had cancer and you needed surgery. Who would you rather perform the operation, some guy with only a bunch of books and a knife at his side, or another guy with a bunch of books and a knife who flunked out of med school? There's something to be said about having genuine teachers.
Too many people know too much. There may be information loss when the modern West falls, but I think we'll hold on to a lot more than you're giving us credit for.
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Post by darkness0within on Jan 27, 2019 14:58:40 GMT -6
What you say is all very true Phantasm. If what is called modern civilization today were to fall there would be some who would have knowledge still to carry on in what would be called 'the old ways'. though perhaps in a simpler way.
But go forward a couple of centuries. Did these survivors manage to pass on this knowledge to future generations? those born after the fall, did they manage to receive an education? or even learn to even read or write? Or could they just be expending their energy on surviving? could some type of government come out of the ashes of the past to exert law enforcement in a possible lawless society? but of course this is pure speculation on my part.
Humanity is very resilient. And of course the best case scenario is that of regeneration and rebuilding of society. Though it would be a very different world. Perhaps they might get it right next time. I would hope so.
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Post by darkness0within on Jan 28, 2019 7:53:32 GMT -6
Automation has taken many jobs over the decades. As always there are pros and cons to this. the mundane to the downright dangerous tasks are increasingly being carried out by robotics.
More and more people are shunning professions that are low paid, and I don't blame them as we all have to make enough money to live.
The old are living longer because of diet, medical advances and on occasion lifestyle choices. And that is great. Babies(and some mothers) that would never of made it in the past are surviving. And this is great too. However this might bring up some moral dilemmas for the future.
Some peoples idea of utopia would be that robotics take on all the work roles no one wants to do, that AI machines will eventually evolve to look after us all through life so we could concentrate on learning and the arts, or for some just leisure. That money becomes irrelevant. That Nano bots could preserve our world and repair the damage we have done to the world. We would need more than a couple of leaps in technology, but it is almost within the bounds of possibility. Personally I'm not sure this would be the right way to go. But for some I'm sure it would have appeal.
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